Engine braking and effect on clutch

[rkk]

I am looking for some help here .

I have used this effectively on my two wheeler. With each gear change you can really feel the retardation as I release the clutch.
However, I can't seem to replicate this in my 2006 Esteem. I will confess that the speeds were reasonable, say shifted down to 3rd gear at about 50-60 kmph but did not feel any of that engine breaking that I would have experienced on a two wheeler.

What am I doing wrong? Should I be shifting down at higher speeds?

Thanks
Ravi

[mogambo]

So coming back to my question is it good to go with a diesel car as well????

I have not tried this extensively on a diesel car to test this, but apparently it is not possible, check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking

I also remember reading somewhere that although you can use engine breaking to an extent, due to the higher torque on a diesel, apparently the engine resists braking and powers it instead. Probably a little experimentation and feedback from diesel car owners can shed light on it? I believe the manual mentions that it is possible.

I can't seem to replicate this in my 2006 Esteem

I have driven an old esteem before, if you need to slow down from 50-60, you will need to at least shift down to 2nd. The 2nd gear on an esteem can take you close to 100! This is the reason why 3rd wont suffice. The braking limit for each gear is listed in the user manual.

[Roadking]

I have not tried this extensively on a diesel car to test this, but apparently it is not possible, check this Engine braking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's what I was looking for, Thanks mogambo - hmm.... now why didnt I think of wikipedia

Got to change my whole driving style for the sake of becoming a Diesel-head

[Ironhide]

I have not tried this extensively on a diesel car to test this, but apparently it is not possible, check this

You can do engine braking with Diesel; I do use it regularly on my Safari.

Please explain diesel engine braking? - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

[Roadking]

You can do engine braking with Diesel; I do use it regularly on my Safari.

Please explain diesel engine braking? - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

Still not clear enough..... the link you posted talks about truck engines and I have bought a ford figo - so a lot of difference - correct me if I am wrong. Safari is on higher CC note compared to the figo

Hmmm... seriously getting confused

[mclaren1885]

Engine braking is not as effective on diesels as it is on petrols. But it's can be a life saver. Most of us use engine braking all the time on our diesels. As long as you don't do a mechanical over rev it's fine.

Can someone merge this thread with this one?
Engine braking and effect on clutch

[H Rajesh Kumar]

mclaren1885, yksharma

last service i asked service guys to adjust the clutch play...i asked would you be lubricating the clutch cable...the reply was ford figo doesn't have a clutch cable...it has got sensors instead.. could anyone explain more on this??? i know ford ikon had but not sure about fiesta or figo....

[007]

I believe the Figo has a hydraulic clutch. no cables.

[blackhorn]

lubricating the clutch cable

there are different kinds of linkages to accomplish engaging and disengaging of the clutch, as you know, already one of them is by cable, the other kind is by hydraulic means, where you have a master and the slave, to achieve mechanical advantage which is probably what he was referring in your case, i am assuming you have a figo diesel..

EDIT: bond beat me to it

[linuxmanju]

I am opening the Pandora's box again ,

This is what I do in my Punto VGT --> Lets say I am doing 80 Kmph in 5th gear , I see a speed breaker / Traffic light / Some slow moving vehicle infront, I shift down to 4th and release the clutch slowly ( Not too slow , may be a couple of seconds slower than normal to avoid sudden jerks to the passengers ), and take the foot off the throttle and wait for the vehicle to slow down on its own. Most of the time all it requires is a tap on the brake just in case I need to slow down further ( and may be shift down again if required based on the speed/rpm I am in). This way Once I am past the obstruction/or If I have to overtake, I can speed up easily in 4th ( Or any lower gear ) and slot 5th for cruising then on. Right way to do ? Or am I asking too much from clutch/drivetrain. Tagging Ripper; need help here