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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrus43 View Post
    Dont you guys think Tata should give a 90HP Diesel from the Punto in this?
    IMHO (and others will most certainly differ) a 1.3 L Diesel engine producing 90HP is overkill. They should plonk in bigger and better engines. 1.5L from Logan is a good example. Even 1.9L diesel engines will be fine.

    One expert explained me this concept quite interstingly - 1.3L is say 5 horses (before turbo), and then we tweak it (VGT, turbo, etc) so that it starts behaving like 7 horses (but in reality it's only 5 horses). On the other hand a 1.5L is born and breed 7 horses. 1.9L may be 9 horses and so on.

    Is there any regulation (or tax rebate, etc) when companies put in smaller capacity engines?

    And to that fact, I'm scared of all these huge (heavy) cars - Punto, Linea, Manza, Dzire all running on that poor little 1.3L engine. It's too much to ask of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    LS - Least $exy
    VX - Very X-ey
    ZX - Zimbly X-ey
    And I intentionally asked a driver what CS meant and he instantly replied - 'Cut Size'.

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    One expert explained me this concept quite interstingly - 1.3L is say 5 horses (before turbo), and then we tweak it (VGT, turbo, etc) so that it starts behaving like 7 horses (but in reality it's only 5 horses). On the other hand a 1.5L is born and breed 7 horses. 1.9L may be 9 horses and so on.
    That is all crap. TC basically improves the volumetric efficiency of an engine. 1.3L is suppose to produce 8 horse in ideal situation .But it can't because of losses .Hence the TC helps in achieving better efficiency from the engine that is expected out of it theoretically.
    A 1.9L NA producing 9 horses is born inefficient as it cannot achieve what is expected of it theoretically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullboy View Post
    That is all crap.
    Not really! That's a good debate - may be we can start another thread.
    But I agree with you on the point that smaller engines are effecient and when power is required, the turbo helps. But bigger engines can also be effecient when they are run at proper RPMs. Also, as technology has helped smaller engines produce more power and become more effecient, it also has helped the bigger engines become effecient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    Is there any regulation (or tax rebate, etc) when companies put in smaller capacity engines?
    Excise Duty:

    In the Indian Union Budget 2008-09, the Government of India reduced the Excise duty on small cars from 16% to 12%. The Government of India further reduced the excise duty rate from 12% to 8% in December 2008. This reduction was a part of Government initiative towards revival of Automobile industry from the recessionary situation.

    The excise duty on cars other than small cars was also reduced from 24% to 20%. Small cars are defined to mean cars of length not exceeding 4,000 mm and with an engine capacity not exceeding 1,500 cc for cars with diesel engines and not exceeding 1,200 cc for cars with gasoline engines.

    The excise duty on motor vehicles for transport of more than 13 persons, including the driver, from 16% to 12% and this was further reduced to 8% in December 2008 . Excise duty on chassis fitted with engines for such vehicles was also reduced from “16% + Rs.10,000 per chassis” to “12% + Rs.10,000 per chassis” which was further reduced to “8% + Rs.10,000 per chassis” in December 2008.

    Excise duty on Trucks was reduced from 16% to 14%, which was further reduced to 10% in December 2008. The excise duty on Trucks was again reduced from 10% to 8% in the Union Budget 2009-10.

    In December 2008, the excise duty on Safari, SUVs & UVs was reduced from “24% + Rs. 20,000 per vehicle” to “20% + Rs. 20,000 per vehicle” which was further reduced to “20% + Rs. 15,000 per vehicle” in the Union Budget of 2009-10.

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