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      Have you guys tried spotting just the rear tail lamps while driving in really thick fog? Trust me, having your hazards helps a lot, only in thick fog though. The yellow light reflects/refracts better and increases visibility 10 folds and also the flickering situation aids better visibility. The last thing you would want to do in foggy conditions is rear end someone because you didn't see them. Often, I've missed spotting the red light of tail lamps in thick fog.

      I don't think there is a point in getting overtly critical about the use of hazards. If I see a vehicle running hazards in front of me for whatever reason, I back off speed and drive cautiously until I pass.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Have you guys tried spotting just the rear tail lamps while driving in really thick fog? Trust me, having your hazards helps a lot, only in thick fog though. The yellow light reflects/refracts better and increases visibility 10 folds and also the flickering situation aids better visibility.
      Let me mention a scenario which is quite common here in North when there is thick fog in winters. When I drive on bike, on NH-8 Gurgaon-Delhi expressway ( on the way to my office), I see 90 % the vehicles with hazard lights ON.

      And believe me there are hell lot of hazard lights blinking in front of me, yes I can see the vehicles, but from a distance, I am not sure if they are stationary or moving. My only concern is how we convey to others in the Fog that you are actually stationary due to some problem.

      But I would like to agree that it helps, but in few cases, it can actually cause rear ending.

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      If I see a vehicle running hazards in front of me for whatever reason, I back off speed and drive cautiously until I pass.
      Correct that when I see any vehicle with blinkers, I back off too and it helps.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      My only concern is how we convey to others in the Fog that you are actually stationary due to some problem.
      Eeerrr well, if you are closing down on the hazards way too fast, then it means a vehicle is really crawling or stationary. If it keeps maintaining the same distance, it means it's moving no?
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Eeerrr well, if you are closing down on the hazards way too fast, then it means a vehicle is really crawling or stationary. If it keeps maintaining the same distance, it means it's moving no?
      This is very correct. But in few cases, visibility is quite poor in thick fog, say even less than 50 meters at times. This will give quite a less time to react. And we for sure get to know incidents from Delhi/NCR in winters , e.g. multiple cars crashed onto each other due to fog!

      I can quote the examples of trains where in North during winters, loco pilots overshoot signals and crash, even when trains are running at low speeds. And more funny is ,railway staff locks the last coach so as to avoid the casualties if that train is rear ended by some another train.

      Nevertheless since it is coming from you and you being an experienced & learned driver, I would try it out myself ( I am yet to drive car in Fog) and see if it helps.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      visibility is quite poor in thick fog, say even less than 50 meters at times. This will give quite a less time to react.
      If the visibility is that poor, everyone would be literally crawling. And at speeds of 20-30kmph, IMO one should be able to stop in time even if you see it at the last minute.

      Also driving in fog in straight lines might be a lot safer. Trying driving in steep ghats with fog and heavy traffic
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      Quote Originally Posted by turbokick View Post
      I have seen in Kerala, when you are at a cross junction, hazard lights are used to indicate that you are going straight
      I saw this trend even in Madurai recently. I asked the call taxi driver about the use and he mentioned the same. Dont know where did this practice started.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MrWaggy View Post
      I saw this trend even in Madurai recently. I asked the call taxi driver about the use and he mentioned the same. Dont know where did this practice started.
      I have seen it used in chennai too. Cant help it. We just have to ignore them.

      I use hazard lights in the following situations:

      1. Parking on the highway
      2. Driving slowly(<40Kmph) on GQ
      3. Driving without proper breaks
      4. Heavy rain
      5. Fog/Smog

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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      If in low visibility, all vehicles are running with flashers lights and if there is breakdown in dead right fast lane, then this vehicle can not be distinguished from other vehicles because all vehicles will be running with flashers lights set to ON.
      Exactly.
      Infact this morning, we had some heavy showers here in Delhi and suddenly every driver had their hazard lights on. So for a moment while I debated whether I should switch on the wipers r not, with rainwater all splashed up on my screen, all I could see were flashing orange lights, and no clue who was moving and who weren't.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nfspoet View Post
      Infact this morning, we had some heavy showers here in Delhi and suddenly every driver had their hazard lights on. So for a moment while I debated whether I should switch on the wipers r not, with rainwater all splashed up on my screen, all I could see were flashing orange lights, and no clue who was moving and who weren't.
      So, you are actually helped by those flashing hazard lights. You were alerted that some vehicle is ahead - moving slowly or not!

      yksharma, Rain or Fog, in lowered visibility how can you decide whether there is a vehicle ahead, forget it is moving slowly or not, if no indicators are visible. Flashing lights are at least help in creating doubt and slowing down the vehicle, and of course, minimize the chances of rear ending the vehicle ahead!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dev11 View Post
      Flashing lights are at least help in creating doubt and slowing down the vehicle, and of course, minimize the chances of rear ending the vehicle ahead!
      True that nfspoet was alerted and he must have driven more carefully. On the other hand side, believe me, not everyone will do that. Cabbies here in Delhi/NCR, use hazard signal more often in rain/fog. If they see any hazard lights, they assume it is moving as usual and never slow down, hence the risk of rear ending.

      That said, if we use this signal wisely in fog / rain, it would be helpful.

      By the way, all the vehicles are not fitted with yellow fog lights ( at front and rear) in India. In Himachal, if I remember correctly, buses and trucks have yellow colored fog lamps which helps them in dense fog/ heavy rain.

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