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      Chevrolet Cruze Alloy/Tyre Upgrade Options.

      This will hopefully be a one stop place for all Cruze owners to solve their tyre queries for the Cruze.

      Alloys: The Cruze PCD I posted elsewhere.

      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Here are the actual details.

      Diesels PCD = 5x115, ET 44, Ø~70.2

      Petrols PCD = 5x105, ET 41, Ø~56.5

      So the alloys from the Cruze selling abroad is not a direct fit either.

      Source - chevroletcruzeforum.com
      So stay away from the dealers who will try to sell you 114.3 PCD 5 lug rims. Thanks to PJSPEED for confirming the same.

      OE alloys are very strong. I still haven't gotten around to finding out who makes them. But they will easily take up 215 width tyres. In some cases I've seen 225 width tyres being fit on OE alloys, though the bulge is more pronounce. Unless you have a lot of money to waste, stick to OE alloys. They are good! And take up a lot of abuse driving in bad Indian Roads. Also IIRC, each alloys costs under 5k (would appreciate if someone could call their dealership and confirm).

      Anyways, most of the aftermarket alloys unless specifically made for that car, seem to develop wobbling issues at high speeds under braking and cornering. The solution for the above is Hub Centric Rings. Either ways, this is not a permanent solution and we've often had these rings crack due to stress and extreme temperatures alloys see at high speed driving. Ideally, I would suggest Cruze owners to stay off aftermarket alloys unless you are doing it for show and/or don't drive fast at all. Or kindly import alloys meant for the Cruze from the European market.

      Tyres:

      Stock Size
      - 205/60/16 JK Vectras. Stick to this size if you don't drive too fast. Maybe upgrade the tyres IF you feel like. For an average driver, even upgrading tyres isn't required. The JK Vectras that come with the car are more than sufficient. And probably will last longer than any other tyres you upgrade to.

      Upgrade Options
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      1. 215/60/16 - Error of 1.84%. Best upgrade size. One doesn't lose out on the comfort aspect. This is what tadukuttan is running on his Cruze.

      2. 215/55/16 - Error of -1.46%. Makes ride quality bad compared to OE. One has to be really careful about driving through bad roads and risk screwing up suspension components, alloys and tyres.

      3. 225/55/16 - Error of 0.23%. Probably the best upsize in terms of error % compared to others. But 225 width tyres rob away a lot of the acceleration and make the car feel slow. Heck, infact 215s seem like a overkill for the car. That with 55 profile tyres will be quite a compromise for ride quality. 225 width tyres though will aid braking tremendously. But having pushed the Cruze through every possible situation, I would suggest that upgrades 1 and 2 will be more than sufficient.

      4. 205/55/17 - Error of 0.75%. Only if you are upgrading to 17" alloys and want a decent compromise between ride quality and looks.

      5. 205/50/17 - Error of -2.39%. Stay away unless riding only on beautiful roads and in city.

      6. 215/55/17 - Error of 2.44%. Again stay away if you can.

      7. 215/50/17 - Error of -0.86%. 50 profile with a really stiff suspension setup! Not for people who drive through bad roads.

      8. 225/50/17 - Error of 0.67%. Best size if you are looking for just BLING and drive only in city with good roads.

      Anything below 50 profile is absolutely not recommended for Indian Roads.

      In the subsequent posts, I shall write separate reviews about each tyre we've tested on the Cruze.
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      recently upgraded to 215/60/16 yokohama A348R on stock alloys

      phenomenal difference in ride and handling

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      Stock Tyre Review: JK Vectra 205/60/16.

      JK Vectra 205/60/16.

      When I first drove the car, I thought GM was smoking crack to give this car JK Vectras. But the more we drove the car with the stock tyres the more we realized that they aren't too bad.

      Infact, if you are a slow driver or someone who occasionally speeds, you won't even find the necessity to upgrade the stock tyres.

      The sidewall strength is pretty decent. The tyres are pretty comfort oriented and silent as well. They compliment the rather stiff suspension pretty well.

      What they lack is cornering grip. They will protest a bit loudly, but not to an extent that they will give up mid corner like say the CPC2s or S-Drives.

      They are pretty good under braking too and we've tried braking from very high speeds.

      So if you are an occasional fast driver, stick to these tyres. Good VFM and will easily last you 30k kms.

      However, these tyres are not that great in the wet. So slow down when you have standing water on the roads. We once had a very scary moment where the wheels were pointing in one direction, but the car kept going in another after aquaplaning

      These tyres also perform the best when warmed up well. Unlike say the S-Drives that start acting up when they reach high temperatures.

      All in all I'd rate these tyres:

      1. Ride comfort - 7/10.
      2. Dry Grip - 7/10.
      3. Wet Grip - 5/10.
      4. Tyre Noise - 8/10.
      5. Sidewall Strength - 7/10.
      6. Braking - 7/10.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      When I first drove the car, I thought GM was smoking crack to give this car JK Vectras. But the more we drove the car with the stock tyres the more we realized that they aren't too bad.
      Agree with you, VW also giving JK Vectra along with Apollo Accelere and MRF (recently introduced in their line-up). I also had plans of upgrading tyres but later I realized that JKs are not bad, even they perform above expectations. I always underrated them but now I have respect for these cheap JKs, considering I have driven my car on some really very very bad conditions and still driving. Premium tyres would have really given up in the conditions I have driven my car. these JK tyres might score little less in performance but they are abuse friendly.

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      Michelin Primacy LC 215/60/16 Review: The best compromise!

      tadukuttan's car was running Michelin Primacy LC tyres in 215/60/16.

      First impression was the much much better ride comfort compared to my tyres (Maxxis MA-Z1s). And these tyres are silent too.

      Their cornering (lateral) grip is phenomenal. And we've never managed to lock tyres under braking from 200+ so that's saying something. They perform really well in the wet too. Sort of like an all-rounder tyre and probably the best set of tyres you can get for the Cruze.

      Only trouble though is the pricing on them. They cost in the region of 9k per tyre last I remember.

      Oh, the sidewalls aren't too strong! Better than a lot of the other tyres available in the market, but not on par with the MA-Z1s or even the JK Vectras. tadukuttan lost one tyre recently in the Palghat-Thrissur stretch and has now gone back to using JK Vectras for the front and retained Primacy LCs for the rear!

      I'd rate the tyre as follows:

      1. Ride comfort - 9/10.
      2. Dry Grip - 8.5/10.
      3. Wet Grip - 8.5/10.
      4. Tyre Noise - 8.5/10.
      5. Sidewall Strength - 7/10.
      6. Braking - 8.5/10.
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      Maxxis MA-Z1 Review: Best Performance Oriented tyres and VFM.

      My car is running Maxxis MA-Z1 tyres in 215/55/16 size.

      First impressions, these tyres make the ride quality horrendous! Everytime I hit bad roads, I am perennially scared of a bone jarring ride thanks to stiff suspension on the Cruze and the stiff sidewalls on the tyres.

      Unlike my previous experiments with the MA-Z1s, they seem to be rather loud and noisy on my car. And might also be exhibiting a pulling issue to the left. However, I haven't been noticing any uneven wear so far, so decided to live with it.

      Where these tyres truly come into their own is under hard cornering. The lateral grip they provide is just phenomenal. The effort you put in trying to make the car turn-in in is so effortless. Just outright grip throughout the corner. They give you confidence to push the car further into corners and compliment very well with the engine this car has.

      In straight line though, the phenomenal grip also means they rob away the acceleration. Tadu's car feels a lot quicker off the blocks compared to my car. And I'd put that solely down to the tyres. With the JK Vectras the car feels fastest from a standing start as long as you don't keep wheel spinning!

      The other important trait of the MA-Z1s is the phenomenal braking they provide. Doesn't matter what speeds you are at, just sit on the brakes and the car will stop. You just to pray that the suspension and the lack of ESP will not throw the rear out under braking! The limitation is the suspension and the absence of ESP, not the tyres.

      The sidewalls on the MA-Z1s are extremely stiff. Probably the stiffest sidewalls we've come across in any tyre till date. That makes the ride bad, but they are brilliant in withstanding abuse on our rather poor roads.

      Last trip while returning from Chennai, I managed to put my right front wheel in a huge pothole. I wasn't driving too fast, around 50kmph and was distracted in a conversation. When we hit the pothole, I was sure to have lost the tyre. But when we got down and saw, the tyre was in-tact and had shown no sign of sweat. I couldn't believe my eyes! So we stopped again after 70kms just to have another look at the tyre and it seemed just fine. I can vouch that the Primacy LC in that very same pothole would have given up and 70% chance that the JK Vectras would have given up too.

      I'd rate the tyre as follows:

      1. Ride comfort - 6/10.
      2. Dry Grip - 9.5/10.
      3. Wet Grip - 8.5/10.
      4. Tyre Noise - 6.5/10.
      5. Sidewall Strength - 10/10.
      6. Braking - 9.5/10.

      The biggest USP is that these tyres do all of that and are extremely VFM. They should be costing under 7k right now! And the only tyres I've seen provide better grip than these are the legendary Yokohama Advan Neova AD-07s, Michelin PP2/PP3, Hankook Ventus RS-2 and all these cost significantly higher than the MA-Z1s.

      What will my next upgrade be?

      If I manage to get MA-Z1s in 215/60/16, I won't be looking at any other tyre! If not, maybe I will settle with the Primacy LCs.

      Would love to check out the Yoko's DocZ's car is running and update this thread.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      And these tyres are silent too
      silent tires, violent driver. match made in heaven.


      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      And we've never managed to lock tyres under braking from 200+ so that's saying something.
      isn't that what the ABS is there for?

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      Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
      silent tires, violent driver. match made in heaven
      Apparently, violent driver likes a mixture of tyres

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      isn't that what the ABS is there for?
      We thought so too! Until someone went and fitted S-Drives on the Elantra. Damn tyres would lock up even while braking from 80kmph, that is when I coined them as Suicidal Drives. The very next day we went and threw away those tyres after they had run very little. So yes, even with ABS one can manage to lock tyres up, quite badly too. Read more here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      tadukuttan's car was running Michelin Primacy LC tyres in 215/60/16.

      First impression was the much much better ride comfort compared to my tyres (Maxxis MA-Z1s). And these tyres are silent too.

      Their cornering (lateral) grip is phenomenal. And we've never managed to lock tyres under braking from 200+ so that's saying something. They perform really well in the wet too. Sort of like an all-rounder tyre and probably the best set of tyres you can get for the Cruze.

      Only trouble though is the pricing on them. They cost in the region of 9k per tyre last I remember.

      Oh, the sidewalls aren't too strong! Better than a lot of the other tyres available in the market, but not on par with the MA-Z1s or even the JK Vectras. tadukuttan lost one tyre recently in the Palghat-Thrissur stretch and has now gone back to using JK Vectras for the front and retained Primacy LCs for the rear!

      I'd rate the tyre as follows:

      1. Ride comfort - 9/10.
      2. Dry Grip - 8.5/10.
      3. Wet Grip - 8.5/10.
      4. Tyre Noise - 8.5/10.
      5. Sidewall Strength - 7/10.
      6. Braking - 8.5/10.
      I have these tires in my ANHC and and they rock except poor Sidewall. One tire gone and one bulging sidewall.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Would love to check out the Yoko's DocZ's car is running and update this thread
      you could do it on sat

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