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      BMW Announces Front-wheel Driven Car

      Makers of the touted Ultimate Driving Machine, BMW, have committed, what can only be referred as sacrilege in the holy grail of handling. The German carmaker will take to making front-wheel drive cars. Wipe your eyes all you want, its here to stay.

      BMW chairman Dr. Norbert Reithofer said at a recent press conference that while there will be lower-emission, front-wheel-drive BMWs in the “smaller vehicle classes in the future,” BMW will continue to be a “sport-inspired brand.”BMW already makes competent front-wheel drives in the form of the MINI…err…supermini. Since BMW changed their marketing voice to ‘JOY is BMW’, all they have been doing is killjoy-esque.
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      this might lead to a problem for BMW. What if there are slippages etc and the front wheel is driving and the rear wheel is fish tailing
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      Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://gearheads.in/post21002.html#p21002
      shishirbn » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:18 pm[/url]]What if there are slippages etc and the front wheel is driving and the rear wheel is fish tailing
      Hunh? . What exactly are you trying to say?
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      Sacrilege is the exact word that came to my mind when I saw the thread title.
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      what is wrong in being front driven. for the smaller classes design wise the FWD is a better idea. this would lead to better space utilisation!. this is a good move. the same thing was there when the A class benz was introduced! cross engine cross engine !! so what..it did come into being.

      yup there was a serious flaw though! but it was corrected by another major league OEM supplier

      still for a small car read segment A,B,C anyday for normal guys who dont do unwanted stunts into corners, the FWD is the sane design choice.!

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      Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://gearheads.in/post21170.html#p21170
      Techie » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:57 pm[/url]]anyday for normal guys who dont do unwanted stunts into corners
      Stunts? The word is finesse Sameel. Cornering is an art form. Like a ballet dance. Not everyone can do it . And those who can't always make up some lame excuse. Ala a bad worksman always blames his tools?

      I still cant believe BMW would come up with a FWD car. I did read about this or was it on Top Gear? My first reaction was WTF? Complete :text-bs: .
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      lame excuse? .

      a passenger sedan is never meant for attacking corners at great speeds. production cost goes high to develop chassis which will behave properly in corners even with a FWD setup. ( hence high cost for sporty FWD cars..and usually they will be designed for rally use and then the same die finds way into passenger segment!!) a passenger sedan is never meant for aggressive use. whereas sports sedans are meant to be driven in aggressive manner and would also be designed in such a way that corners are taken like a piece of cake! and for better weight distribution and driving dynamics are always RWD setup. when driving dynamics takes the front seat AWD setup comes into picture!!.

      so for the cars which are meant for passenger segment . that for the average family guy who wants to take his family out, the FWD makes more sense.

      each segment has a best suited design. and for small capacity and short bonnet type design , cross engine and FWD is best suited!. its a known fact FWD is not as good as RWD when it comes to attacking corners.

      so chill. appreciate the design and cost benefits. would it be bad if you can get a FWD BMW in the 15lakh bracket?! yup FWD setup has inherent cost advantages compared to the RWD setup.

      BMW hasnt told anyone that for life they will make RWD only. the competition has moved on. sticking onto tradition will mean that BMW gets stuck to a particular segment. in these tough times this move makes sense to me as an engineer!

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      Sameel, I didn't mean why FWD as a lame excuse. I know why BMW did what they did. Anyways thanks for the gyan. It was directed towards people who can't corner for nuts and keep making it sound like those who do are doing "stunts" .

      All this talk about chassis ability to corner and all is ok. Weren't you the same guy who was harping about the cornering abilities of the Verna with Bilsteins? Are you trying to say that Verna chassis is sporty? Capable of cornering? As per your previous post, I don't see anything to harp about (since its just a passenger car and not a rally die). But in person you were just going on and on about how one can smoke anything now with a Verna etc. You seem to contradict yourself most of the times to prove a point.

      a passenger sedan is never meant for attacking corners at great speeds.
      Then there are others who go along and prove people like you completely wrong . Some of them are known by the names Koni, Bilstein, H&R, Tein, HKS.. I can name more, but you get the drift, don't you?
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      you wont ever learn would you. unless specific upgrades are done to suspension normal chassis cant handle corners at speeds which are above 60mph ( that is a design limit - first stage) the next benchmark is 100mph.

      bilstiens coilovers comes as a package and is meant to improve the drive dynamics of whichever car it is put into because. from factory all cars are rolled out with suspension setup which is suited to that particular car and segment.. ever wondered why the elantra came with stiffer suspension setup? its because that car was hyundais first perfromance sport sedan. it was meant for american market which was very demanding when it came to driving dynamics. the verna is meant for upper C segment where ride comfort is given more importance hence soft setup.

      stop goin after me. you are just making a lot of noise . anyone who reads my posts now..the ones devoid of smilies knows im talking sense..lets face facts..

      atleast now i guess you realise its not just the chassis. its the suspension setup that also aids in better handling. dont you have a custom suspension in your baleno. why?

      i guess its because you realized your chassis couldnt handle the extra power? and there was nothing you could do to the chassis. as its design was already done..or working on it is hell expensive. so you went for better suspension??

      P.S i know there wont be any use of this post because there really is no way of keeping you quiet. yup its true no one can win in a conversation with you. bravo!!

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      going off topic ..well..i want to talk bout BMW..considering the topic ended up turning into something else.

      an independent survey conducted by BMW says that 80% of BMW owners in US thought their cars were FWD !! can you believe the level of ignorance...now officially BMW can be rest assured that FWD bimmers will not be an offence.
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