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      Seized Verna Engine- Mystery Solved

      A few months back, Dad's Verna gave up the ghost when he was out of town.
      The engine had seized, after the head gasket blew, and all the coolant evaporated.

      He left the car at the nearest large HASS and came home. Boy, did we regret it!
      We got the work done under warranty, and it cost only oil and oil filter, nothing else, but it took almost 2 months for those incompetents to return the car.

      Even the warranty was done only after a lot of pressure was put on them via friends here on GHDs
      Initially, they wanted us to bear all the costs. after 2 days of yelling over the phone in, they agreed to do it under warranty.

      The Mystery
      Why did the engine seize?
      After all these months, I get an answer
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      Around 2 weeks before that fateful long drive, Dad complains that the AC has lost its cooling. The AC would work fine, getting out of the house, but would blow regular air a few kms later. I didnt make the connection then
      After messing around for a few days at the local HASS, the AC system was found to be normal.
      I didnt know about it then. I was too busy with exams to follow up what I thought was an "AC problem"
      I left it for my dad to sort out. Mistake
      Dad kept cribbing about how long our regular, reliable HASS was taking to fix the "AC problem" (They took 3 days)
      They fixed it, and gave it to dad, who didnt bother to find out what actually happened with the "AC".

      Dad did the long drive 2 or 3 days later. Boom! Engine Seize!
      The idiots who did the engine rebuild never told me what the possible reason was.

      Anyways...I talked to our local HASS today. Nice bunch of people.
      when the Local HASS failed to fix the AC, they poked around and found that the engine coolant had leaked away through a tear in some hose. The AC was being cut off by the ECU that detected the engine was overheating.There was nothing wrong with the AC
      Dad had been running around cochin for sometime with no coolant. God knows how long.
      The gasket was probably damaged then. we had no way of knowing at that point.
      Later during the strain of the highway run, the gasket finally blew, the coolant evaporated, engine seized.
      Mystery Solved.

      Car is running fine now.
      Moral of the story
      1. always keep an eye on the temp gauge. know where it stands normally in your car.
      2. if the AC keeps cutting off,dont assume its the AC, check your coolant level.
      3. Always poke around at your local service center, to find out what went wrong and how they fixed it.
      4. Hyundai diesels break only with extreme negligence.
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      OMG. You know Doc, we had a similar issue on the Xenon at Orissa. One of the wires kept rubbing against the coolant can and managed to damage it enough that the coolant started to leak. I luckily noticed it or else we could have ended up with a blown head too.

      Imagine how weird a reason for it to damage the can. It was one of those covers you get for the wiring, black spiral thingy.

      And yes, I do agree with keeping an eye on the temperature needle often, more so if the car is modded.
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      What a weird way to seize the engine. Just cannot trust those ass guys. They are more interested in looting people than in doing good work. Which ASS was that?

      Doc - One doubt after reading your post. There is no temperature gauge in the Getz. How the hell do I know if the temp is above normal. The red sign comes on only when the engine is in overheated stage. I thought the verna also used the same method.
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      thnx doc.
      I will now check that part in my car too.
      but strangely the problem with the strange sound disappeared after few 100 kms.

      by the way, one more qstn : Do you get any rattle noise from inside the dash board often when you go to 4/5 gear in slower speeds?
      These rattles are getting into my nerves...
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      @krish- there is a temp gauge in the verna. It shouldnt go above midway mark.
      If there is on gauge(that would be odd) You can look at coolant temps using the obd port, if you have a scanner.
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      Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://gearheads.in/post22252.html#p22252
      Silver Rocket » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:15 pm[/url]]thnx doc.
      I will now check that part in my car too.
      but strangely the problem with the strange sound disappeared after few 100 kms.

      by the way, one more qstn : Do you get any rattle noise from inside the dash board often when you go to 4/5 gear in slower speeds?
      These rattles are getting into my nerves...
      @silver rocket, I also have the same problem. Just under the steering in slow speeds, I get the same from the Doors as well, where I know the reason. When they fitted the speakers, they left the wires untied. I went twice to Hyundai to get it fixed, but with no luck yet.
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      Thanks Doc for the information, i would defenitely lookout for the temperatures..

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      Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://gearheads.in/post22252.html#p22252
      Silver Rocket » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:15 pm[/url]]thnx doc.
      I will now check that part in my car too.
      but strangely the problem with the strange sound disappeared after few 100 kms.

      by the way, one more qstn : Do you get any rattle noise from inside the dash board often when you go to 4/5 gear in slower speeds?
      These rattles are getting into my nerves...
      Hey i had that problem in the getzi. I found it was the RVM vibrating. Try this - when you get the sound right hold the RVM and see if the sound persists.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rippergeo
      Car is running fine now.
      Moral of the story
      1. always keep an eye on the temp gauge. know where it stands normally in your car.
      2. if the AC keeps cutting off,dont assume its the AC, check your coolant level.
      3. Always poke around at your local service center, to find out what went wrong and how they fixed it.
      4. Hyundai diesels break only with extreme negligence.
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      The problem could have been the cooling fan not working properly also . If the fan doesnt start at the correct temperature , the temperature of the car will shoot and coolant will get released from the relief valve(coolant reservoir) or sometimes from a week point(may be hose or gasket).The air conditioning also will not work if the fan is not running as the temperature in the condenser will shoot up.If fan is not working AC will work fine for some time and then after heating it will malfunction.I am not saying this is the problem but this situation can also cause the same problem.
      My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."

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      A friend of mine had this problem on his petrol accent today. a/c was switching off. Drove for a few km and the temp needle was overshooting. Opened the bonnet and pink coolant mass lying on the engine block.

      He's taken it to a garage and they're trying to locate the leak. The mechanic said that the radiator fan relay needs to checked as well, why so ?
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