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      Metallic vs. Ceramic Brake Pads

      Allied Nippon makes brake pads in joint collaboration with Japan Brake Industrial Co. Ltd. They export to different countries & are OEM certified

      Bought a set for Verna
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      Left - Allied Nippon vs. Right - OEM pads
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      The Allied Nippon has a straight cut in the center like normal pads whereas the OEM ones have 2 diagonal cuts.
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      I believe the diagonal cuts help in reducing wear, similar to the slots on slotted rotors.

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      The slots on the OEMs give a sudden 'bite' to brakes at lower speeds < 60 kmph which is missing with the AN brake pads. Higher than 100 kmph the OEM pads do not bite well whereas the AN does it better. I believe it is because of the better metallic composition.

      Also in the mornings there was a slight squeaking sound from OEM pads which disappears after few kms whereas its absent with AN pads.
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      How much are the AN pads compared to the OEM ones ?
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      Allied Nippon Intelligent Braking - cheaper than OEM pads
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      AN pads are creating lot of brake dust at the expense of bite which is due to the semi-metallic compound. I am using AN pads in the front & SC pads in the rear. Super Circle (SC) Brake pads - Manufacturer Exporters of Disc Brake Pads

      The front wheels look dark brownish due compared to the rear due to the excessive dusting.

      Am going to try ceramic pads next time. Have narrowed down on a brand called TNG .
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      Quote Originally Posted by eapen View Post
      The front wheels look dark brownish due compared to the rear due to the excessive dusting.
      It's normal that front wheels generate more brake dust than rear wheels because the braking force is higher on the front than on the rear.

      Quote Originally Posted by eapen View Post
      Am going to try ceramic pads next time. Have narrowed down on a brand called TNG .
      Do note that the Ceramic brake pads need to be warmed up to operating temperatures for it to work effectively so initially you'd find it biting less. Also, they take a heavy toll on the rotors. I feel Ceramic pads on Indian cars (without rotor mods) are not quiet as efficient under our standard driving conditions... based on my experience.

      Try for other compounds like Hawk HPS or HP Plus (Hawk Performance Brake Pads: HP Plus Autocross Track) before you go ceramic. HPS is well suited for regular applications and HP Plus for extreme braking. I have personally tried HP Plus on a Stage 3 Octavia RS and these had adequate bite to stop that monster on it's tracks without any drama.

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      QS , I have already bought the ceramic pads :/. These pads were introduced in India few years back, but now maybe due to the reasons you stated it is not selling well

      I was thinking of custom slotting spare discs & using metallic/ceramic pads on them. Its all a learning process.

      Earlier I was using Hyundai OEM Korean ( Mobis ) brake pads with Stainless Steel braided brake hoses. The AN pad dusting is much more than those but the bite is better which is good sign. Dusting of pads usually means the pads are getting worn out & not the discs/rotors.

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      According to the dealer of ceramic pads, as again you correctly stated there are complaints of it eating the rotors. Since I have a spare rotor set, will slot them & test it out.

      As you suggested I might later try the Hawk pads.
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      Yep I have used the TNG ones. I don't they are ceramic based. Also they have a decent bite but it goes away after 500km of use and they heat the discs too much to have any grip in panic breaking

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      Piyush : I checked, TNG makes ceramic brake pads. Refer the picture of the pads I have. The pads are light grey in colour compared to the blackish grey of AN metallic pads.

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      T N G is Indian make.
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