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      Automotive Safety Testing : Elk/Moose Test.

      Well friends we were thinking of starting some threads on the safety tests performed on the vehicles and the importance of those tests and results. Here goes the first thread of the series :
      Automotive Safety Testing : Elk/Moose Test

      1. What is Moose/Elk Test:

      By hearing the word Moose, first image comes in the mind is of an animal. Many of us may have faced or may have heard of such situation when suddenly some animal comes on the road while vehicle is being driven and it turns out in serious panic situation. Now in that situation nothing is left other than either the driver hits the breaks hard or tries to maneuver the vehicle to avoid collision with the moose. Both the conditions are highly risk inviting. But more risky is the sudden maneuvering, vehicle may even turn turtle while during the attempt of sudden maneuvering.

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      Considering the risk involved in such sudden maneuverings, vehicle manufacturers started paying more attention to make vehicles behave more predictable during those type of sudden maneuvers. To make sure the things are going right, they also started testing the vehicles. And the name was given - "Moose/Elk Test"

      2. When and Who put into use

      The Moose Test was invented in Sweden by the Teknikens Varld (Technique World) magazine. The original name wasn't "Moose Test", rather it was called Avoidance Maneuver Test or, in Swedish, “Undanmanöverprov”. There isn't any sure evidence when the first car was tested under Moose Test but it became famous in year 1997 when journalist Robert Collin from magazine Teknikens Varld tested a Mercedes-Benz A-Class car and it overturned in the test.



      Mercedes responded immediately and equipped the A-Class series model with ESP (Electronic Stability Program). Now this was the time when ESP started becoming more popular between other manufacturers as well. 15 year after this incident, European Union made it mandatory for manufacturers to offer ESP as equipment in all the car models sold there.

      3. why is it conducted.

      Now it is clear that Moose test is conducted to test the vehicle's behavior during sudden maneuvers. EoroNCAP is a famous safety regulatory body in Europe. They conduct moose test also alongside the other crash tests before issuing ratings. They test the vehicles with and without ESP and publish the results/videos on their website and issue the ratings accordingly.



      4. The importance of it and its applicable region.

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      The test is performed on dry surface. Traffic cones are arranged in the 'S' shape (as shown in above pictures). Vehicle is loaded with the occupants seating on each seat making the vehicle weighing equal to its maximum allowed weight. If needed, then some stuffs are put into trunk as well if the vehicle doesn't achieve the maximum allowed weight by just seating the occupants. Then vehicle is driven and maneuvered along the path at speed of around 70-80 km/hr.

      Volvo and Saab are two manufacturers who are known for accounting moose test while building cars.

      More information of the test can be found on the magazine's website : www.teknikensvarld.se
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      Automotive Safety Testing : Elk/Moose Test.

      Two European publications revisit the Moose Test in a Jeep Grand Cherokee with different results.




      If you caught our industry news roundup from the second week in July, you may have noticed a story regarding safety concerns surrounding the Jeep Grand Cherokee. The issue stemmed from a very specific safety test administered in Sweden by local publication Teknikens Varld, which performed the Moose Test to unsatisfactory results. The Moose Test (or Elk Test) is standard practice in Scandinavia, and recreates a potential danger common in these Nordic countries.



      The test involves a sudden left-right turn untaken at just under 40 mph to simulate what a driver might have to do to avoid hitting an elk that might (and often does) wander onto a country road. Teknikens Varld found that the Grand Cherokee failed the test, nearly tipping over had the skilled test driver not taken decisive action to prevent catastrophe. Jeep's parent company Chrysler contested the results, insisting that the magazine had tampered with the results by overloading the vehicle, switching the electronic stability program off. Chrysler claims to have performed the same test with satisfactory results.







      The Swedes then went back and performed the test again. It claims to have loaded the vehicle and the tire pressure according to the vehicle's registration specifications and left the air suspension in Auto mode. The result: the Jeep popped the left front tire seven times in a row, and nearly toppled over in the process. Chrysler, meanwhile, points out that German magazine Auto Motor und Sport administered the same test with satisfactory results. The AMS test found that, even at relatively high speeds, the Jeep did not tip over and passed the test with flying colors.



      We'll let you, the reading public, determine which publication's test you trust. But one thing's for sure: we wouldn't want to be an elk in Sweden.

      Source : Grand Cherokee Retakes the Elk Test
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      Jeep Grand Cherokee lethal in evasive maneuver

      See Original Report by Teknikens Värld Here


      Teknikens Värld reveals serious deficiencies in one of the best selling SUVs in the world. In the moose test the Jeep Grand Cherokee is about to roll over.

      – Despite the anti-rollover system the Jeep Grand Cherokee shows potentially fatal rollover tendencies at low speed in our avoidance maneuver test, also called moose test or elk test. Such behavior is totally unacceptable in 2012, says Teknikens Värld's Linus Pröjtz.
      Teknikens Värld tests hundreds of new car models every year. In our car testing the moose test is included which is our proprietary evasive maneuver test where we in a set track simulate a moose, a child or other danger suddenly running out in front of the car. The test clearly shows how well or badly the car performs in a panic situation in traffic. The moose test reveals how well the car's active safety systems – such as traction control and anti-rollover system – work.
      Even at 39.5 mph (63.5 km/h) in the moose test the Jeep Grand Cherokee goes up on two wheels, in the middle of the maneuver, and surprises us greatly by being about to roll over. Exactly how high up on two wheels before our test driver has time to prevent a roll over is clearly visible in the image and in the movie above.
      – If it wasn't for our professional test driver's quick reaction the Jeep Grand Cherokee would have rolled over. The handling of the car is lethal for the average motorist, says Daniel Frodin, Editor in Chief at Teknikens Värld.
      Jeep Grand Cherokee was launched in 1993 and is the best selling car model in its segment in America. The Latest generation of car model went on sale in Sweden 2011.
      Despite nearly two weeks of communication Jeep has not provided any information or explanation for the lethal behavior of the Grand Cherokee.

      The complete test where the Jeep Grand Cherokee fails the moose test is available in Teknikens Värld 15/2012 and could be ordered online.

      Cars used as references
      We have used two cars as reference cars in the moose test: Volkswagen Touareg and Volvo XC90. Both the Touareg and XC90 can maneuver on the set track at speeds around 43.5 mph (70 km/h) without any tendency to roll over. Other competing car models, such as the BMW X5, can also handle speeds around 43.5 mph (70 km/h) without any problems. Compare the pictures to the right with the Jeep Grand Cherokee and how it performs in the movie above.

      When we ran the previous generation of Jeep Grand Cherokee in the moose test in 2005 the car passed the test without any problems. It is obvious that Jeep has been careless in the construction of the current model.

      Past failures in the moose test
      Teknikens Värld has performed evasive maneuver tests (moose tests) since the 1970s, and it happens every now and then that our test reveals cars that are poorly designed in chassis construction. In 1997 the Mercedes A-Class overturned (see picture) in the moose test, which became a world scoop and which later got Mercedes to redesign the car.
      In 2007 Toyota Hilux showed the same tendency to tip over. After Toyota performed their own moose test they decided to stop sales of the Hilux with 16-inch wheels in Europe.
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      Hmmmm no wonder Fiat is getting it to India, our laws are so good that we can't do $h!t.

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      The video looks pretty scary! Specially when you compare it to the XC90 and the Toureg and see how composed they are.

      Are there any other Elk Tests done by other publications? Would like to compare what they reported from their tests as well.
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      Here is a video compilation of elk/moose tests conducted on many cars:




      And here is Grand Cherokee ESP test conducted by EuroNCap:

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      Found this on the net - Looks scary
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      We all know that most of the SUVs are topple prone if not driven well knowing their limitations.

      Here are couple of video of our desi SUV Scorpio for which most of us may have heard many incidents of toppling:

      The Scorpio successfully drifts in this video:


      And here is a video of the Scorpio after it failed the drift. I guess this is the same Scorpio shown in the above video as it was posted from same YouTube account:


      But this is very low priced SUV which hardly attends any safety test.
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      I wonder how XUV is gonna behave!!. NO i will not test it on my car.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Metalspree View Post
      I wonder how XUV is gonna behave!!. NO i will not test it on my car.
      good chance to grab that Porche you been eyeing if you scrap the XUV

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