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      Accent CRDi engine issue

      Hi all. I own 2004 Accent CRDi which has clocked close to 1 lakh kilometer. The car has been running perfectly fine till now. Recently, after getting the service serviced, it was noticed that car is consuming engine oil as well as coolant at a fast rate. Car consumed almost 1 liter of engine oil while travelling only 100km. Same is case with coolant. There are no leaks. The mechanic is suggesting piston rings replacement and suggesting a cost of around Rs.30000.

      Please suggest me whether the solution sound right and also should I think about selling the car at this point?

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      Please get the engine rebuilt. Selling a car to someone with a blown engine is considered unethical.

      This is a known issue with the Accent. Piston rings going bad and losing compression near 1L kms. You will have to open the engine and get a mechanic who's known for his good work on Common Rail diesel engines to fix it.

      Do not go to any mechanic who's good at just petrol engines.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      This is a known issue with the Accent. Piston rings going bad and losing compression near 1L kms.
      Rahul, hijacking this thread for a query I have. As we know that the piston rings act a seal between the area where fuel is burned and crankshaft area where where it moves up & down. Now when rings go bad, curious to know what exactly happens to coolant and engine oil. Is it like that these two things evaporate somehow or gets mixed in the fuel itself? Also if these reach crankshaft area, won't entire cylinder get choked!

      Rings going bad under one lakh kms is really too bad. I would say, either it is the result of a bad maintenance or a bad design.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      either it is the result of a bad maintenance or a bad design
      The accent/verna/getz CRDi s are all known to have issues close to the 1 lakh mark. Even the spectacularly maintained ones run into issues. Dont know if its design or quality of parts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by optimus_prime View Post
      The accent/verna/getz CRDi s are all known to have issues close to the 1 lakh mark. Even the spectacularly maintained ones run into issues. Dont know if its design or quality of parts.
      Generally it should be covered under 1 lakh factory warranty, but car in question is 2004 model, so cost has to be born by the OP.

      Rs. 30000/- is quite an amount, may be labor is too high. Rings itself might not be that expensive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      As we know that the piston rings act a seal between the area where fuel is burned and crankshaft area where where it moves up & down. Now when rings go bad, curious to know what exactly happens to coolant and engine oil. Is it like that these two things evaporate somehow or gets mixed in the fuel itself? Also if these reach crankshaft area, won't entire cylinder get choked!
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      either it is the result of a bad maintenance or a bad design.
      Quote Originally Posted by optimus_prime View Post
      Even the spectacularly maintained ones run into issues. Dont know if its design or quality of parts.
      The Accent CRDi engine was the first common rail diesel engine launched in the country! Hyundai set the ball rolling for other manufacturers to catch up. Sadly, there were two predominant issues:

      1. The technology was way ahead of it's times for the Indian market. Think about it, majority of the people even today don't idle a turbo car before switching it off. What do you think the average Joe would do 10yrs back? So a lot of these cars took severe abuse as the warnings were not paid heed to.

      2. I still believe lack of proper maintenance (irregular oil changes) and user related error (not warming up the engine before driving fast or not idling the engine to let the turbo cool off) caused a lot of Accent CRDi issues.

      With time people blew a few engines, expensive rebuilds and slowly started learning the trade.

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      Rs. 30000/- is quite an amount, may be labor is too high. Rings itself might not be that expensive.
      An engine rebuild is always a labour intensive affair. It involves of heavy manual labour for taking an engine out of the bay and atleast 2-3 mechanics wasting a good part of a day or two with your engine alone. That is why they charge more, because for the same duration they could have finished 10 car oil changes. And also, they factor in for additional damages they could find, like bent pistons or broken pistons, bent rods etc when they open your engine! Just so that the customer isn't alarmed when they open the engine and find more screwed up parts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      not warming up the engine before driving fast
      mclaren1885 I just let the engine idle for 30 to 45 secs after start. Then drive gently for about 100 to 200 meters and then zip away. Is this any closer to warming up? How do I know that my engine has warmed up enough?

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      Quote Originally Posted by keerthi View Post
      I just let the engine idle for 30 to 45 secs after start. Then drive gently for about 100 to 200 meters and then zip away. Is this any closer to warming up?
      I think if weather is warm enough, this much 'effort' is fine. However in cold conditions, may be a bit more will be needed.

      And if same is done after a spirited drive, turbo charger and engine will like it very much .
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      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      I think if weather is warm enough, this much 'effort' is fine. However in cold conditions, may be a bit more will be needed.
      Excellent. I was wondering if I have to use a temperature gauge or something to check if engine has warmed.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      And if same is done after a spirited drive, turbo charger and engine will like it very much .
      Doing it religiously. 30-45 seconds idle before stopping the engine. If I'm on the highways the car is let to idle for 2 mins before shutting down. No engine shutdown business during leak breaks lol.

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