• Angry
  • Awesome
  • Hungry
  • Secret
  • Page 1 of 12 12311 ... LastLast
    Results 1 to 10 of 111

    Thread: New tyres for my Figo, is it really required? Edit- fitted Apollo Aceleres, details on page-8.

    1. #1

      *
       
      Awesome
       
      yksharma's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2012
      Location
      Bilaspur HP-23 / Gurgaon HR-26
      Posts
      2,232

      Smile New tyres for my Figo, is it really required? Edit- fitted Apollo Aceleres, details on page-8.

      So here I am in Alloys & Tyres section looking for some pointers on tyre replacement and if yes, which brand.

      Michelin XM1 tyres have clocked near about 26000 kms with a single puncture and performed well under some real rough conditions on highways in plains and mountains. I maintain 32-34 psi and abuse tyres & suspension on bad mountain roads on monthly basis.

      Below is current state of tyres as per my understating:

      1. A very thick tread still remains and tyres exhibit excellent quality on visual inspection. No cuts, bruises on any of the tyres. Tread looks very even on all 4.

      2. Since 2000 kms or so, tyre rubber quality has deteriorated very fast and turned into a hard rubber. Ride has become very bumpy and harsh on uneven/bad roads even at low speeds and this has pushed me into thinking about changing the tyres.

      3. High speed handling (80-120 kmph), grip and braking on good roads is satisfying. Tyre noise on smooth road is less but terrible on uneven tared/rough roads. One more reason to change the tyres.

      4. Fast cornering on mountain highways is just ok.

      5. Off roading is just pathetic, rather scary and ABS comes into action even at low speeds. This is annoying on mountain roads where one has to often offroad to give passage to oncoming vehciles on narrow roads.

      6. At times, ABS comes into action when not expected.

      7. Heavy braking on curves is not good, car tends to loose traction.

      8. I drive 1500-1800 kms per month and highway driving speed can reach 120 kmph, a long drive (non stop) can last for 10 hours/500 kms with some aggressive overtaking, heavy braking, in rains, in bad roads etc.

      Seeing above points, has time come to dump these tyres and opt for new rubber? Or may be I can continue for 5000-10000 kms more.

      Below are my expectations from new tyres:

      1. As I often travel long distances, at times in odd hours with family and hence tyres should be reliable, no highway puncture stuff in driving conditions mentioned above. Ofcourse one needs to drive sensibly and road should be clear off the sharp objects.

      2. Should handle well up to 140 kmph, with punchy brakes and cornering should be good.

      3. Quality should be top notch with very less % of manufacturing defects ( don't know if we can ever know this).

      4. Should last 35000 kms, 40000 kms is welcome. I would nevertheless change above 40000 kms, even if tyres show healthy pattern.

      5. I would not be upgrading tyres this time, stock profile is 175/65/14.

      6. Should be able to drive with confidence on roads filled with pebbles, in muddy roads and yeah no puncture/skidding stuff.

      7. Should perform good ( like Michelins) when driven non stop for say 20 hours, we hate to have tyre bursting or getting extra hot.

      8. Should have good grip in rainy conditions.

      9. Tyres noise can be moderate but feedback should remain excellent.

      So what tyre brand is the best for above conditions, cost of tyres is not a facter.

      Phew...I think I am expecting too much but would like to seek GH's advice before taking any decision.

      Thanks

      Tagging #Figo , #Ford
      Last edited by yksharma; 18th Jun 2013 at 10:31.
      2012 Ford Figo 1.4 Titanium, 2006 Bajaj Pulsar 150
      ____________________________________________

      I was lonely driving here tonight so I hugged the road.

    2. #2

      FIAT - Crafted For A True Car
      Lover. Rest, For The Ordinary
      People!!
       
      Awesome
       

      Join Date
      Jan 2013
      Location
      MH 12
      Posts
      257
      My suggestion as below.

      Yokohama AA01 A Drive Tubeless
      Apollo ACELERE (TL) Tubeless : Go for this tyre if you can live with tyre noise. Ignore this point and you excellent tyre.
      Goodyear ASSURANCE Tubeless
      Continental CONTIECOCONTACT 3 Tubeless

    3. #3

      *
       
      Awesome
       
      yksharma's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2012
      Location
      Bilaspur HP-23 / Gurgaon HR-26
      Posts
      2,232
      Quote Originally Posted by Punter View Post
      Continental CONTIECOCONTACT 3 Tubeless
      Looks good, will check on it.
      Quote Originally Posted by Punter View Post
      Goodyear ASSURANCE Tubeless
      I never heard good things about Goodyear but let me see for some reviews.

      Thank you.
      2012 Ford Figo 1.4 Titanium, 2006 Bajaj Pulsar 150
      ____________________________________________

      I was lonely driving here tonight so I hugged the road.

    4. #4
      Support Donkey
      Turbo Lag - Giving the NA guys
      just 1 extra second of false
      hope :p
       
      Awesome
       
      mclaren1885's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2009
      Location
      Bangalore
      Posts
      23,146
      Bridgestone MY-01/02s if available in your size. Or else try out the Acceleres under worse circumstances.
      2002 Tata Indica DLS.
      2004 Suzuki Zen - A G13B eater.
      2005 Suzuki Baleno - India's fastest Naturally Aspirated Baleno timed on a drag strip officially!
      2008 Suzuki Swift VDi - The Rattle King.
      2011 Chevrolet Cruze - The Torque Monster.
      2016 Ford Ecosport 1.5 TDCi Titanium - The SQ Machine in the making.
      2017 Skoda Octavia VRS - A 400+HP corner craving machine!
      2014 MOC SQ Pro Champions.
      Harmonixx Tuning - Importers for Audiofrog & Arc Audio/APR Tuning Authorized Dealers/Engine Remap Specialists for all makes/models.
      Dealers for Rainbow/Mosconi/Eton/Stetcom/Tru Technology/Blam Audio/Mobridge/Stetsom/Audible Physics/AIV/Gladen/Dampmat/Dr Artex Damping and more.

    5. #5

      Sedate...
       
      Awesome
       
      Evolution88's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2011
      Location
      Bangalore
      Posts
      3,081
      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      1. A very thick tread still remains and tyres exhibit excellent quality on visual inspection. No cuts, bruises on any of the tyres. Tread looks very even on all 4.
      If possible, check the tread depth from a genuine tire shop or Ford Service Center.
      Get the tires changed if it is reading 2.5 mm or less than that.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      2. Since 2000 kms or so, tyre rubber quality has deteriorated very fast and turned into a hard rubber. Ride has become very bumpy and harsh on uneven/bad roads even at low speeds and this has pushed me into thinking about changing the tyres.
      Did you try 32 psi in all 4 tires? If still the issue persists, it is annoying.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      3. High speed handling (80-120 kmph), grip and braking on good roads is satisfying. Tyre noise on smooth road is less but terrible on uneven tared/rough roads. One more reason to change the tyres.
      I believe it will be the same with most of the tires what we have in the market. More to do with road condition than tire.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      5. Off roading is just pathetic, rather scary and ABS comes into action even at low speeds. This is annoying on mountain roads where one has to often offroad to give passage to oncoming vehciles on narrow roads.

      6. At times, ABS comes into action when not expected.
      Nothng to do with the tire. ABS can kick in at low speeds too. I have experienced it many times within city limits & speeds < 40 Km/hr.
      It comes into picture according to the pressure applied on the brake pedal & to avoid locking the tires, ABS kicks in.
      ABS can kick in when your tires are on different surfaces too. As in your case say, left tire is on the gravel & right tire on the road.
      You should be happy as long as the tires are not getting locked.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      7. Heavy braking on curves is not good, car tends to loose traction.
      Try to avoid braking at curves. But if there is a situation like you have misjudged the curve & you had to brake, there is no other option. If it tends to loose traction that time, then that is something we have to look into.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      8. I drive 1500-1800 kms per month and highway driving speed can reach 120 kmph, a long drive (non stop) can last for 10 hours/500 kms with some aggressive overtaking, heavy braking, in rains, in bad roads etc.
      When you say non-stop, I still believe you are taking break every 2 or 2 1/2 hours. That is good for your car & helps the tires to cool down a bit.
      Aggressive overtaking, braking & all should not be an issue if you still believe the car does good with the current set of tires.
      If not, please get it changed.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      1. As I often travel long distances, at times in odd hours with family and hence tyres should be reliable, no highway puncture stuff in driving conditions mentioned above. Ofcourse one needs to drive sensibly and road should be clear off the sharp objects.
      Some tires are prone to punctures but can we really control the tire from not getting punctured? I doubt so.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      2. Should handle well up to 140 kmph, with punchy brakes and cornering should be good.
      Most of the tires in the market will do good in Figo cos of Figo's handling capability but cornering & braking is what we have to look upon.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      3. Quality should be top notch with very less % of manufacturing defects ( don't know if we can ever know this).
      Very hard to check it out.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      4. Should last 35000 kms, 40000 kms is welcome.
      Considering the terrain you are driving, I doubt so as XM1+ are known for it's long life & you feel it is not doing good enough after 26K Kms.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      5. I would not be upgrading tyres this time, stock profile is 175/65/14.
      There are very less options in that spec & you may end up with the wrong tire.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      7. Should perform good ( like Michelins) when driven non stop for say 20 hours, we hate to have tyre bursting or getting extra hot.
      Driving non-stop for that many hours itself helps the tire burst situation.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      8. Should have good grip in rainy conditions.
      Few tires only does good on wet conditions. So make sure you get a tire which does good on dry & wet condition.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      So what tyre brand is the best for above conditions, cost of tyres is not a facter.
      As I said, very less options in that spec. Why can't you try 185/60 R14 spec?
      It does good on my Figo. Already clocked around 5K Kms with the new set of tires. There is no fear of underbody scraping.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      Phew...I think I am expecting too much but would like to seek GH's advice before taking any decision.
      No re. We are here to share our knowledge, gain knowledge & help each other right.

      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      I never heard good things about Goodyear
      Goodyear GT3's served well for me & it lasted 35K Kms.

      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Bridgestone MY-01/02s if available in your size.
      14" starts with 185/60 spec.
      2010 Ford Figo TDCi Titanium - CODE 6 Tuned - Our Colorado Queen :-)
      2012 Skoda Laura Ambiente 2.0 TDI DSG - Our Czech Princess :-)
      "Taking your seat is so easy. Leaving it, however, never is." :-) - Courtesy BMW 3 Series

    6. #6

      *
       
      Awesome
       
      yksharma's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2012
      Location
      Bilaspur HP-23 / Gurgaon HR-26
      Posts
      2,232
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      If possible, check the tread depth from a genuine tire shop or Ford Service Center.
      Tread is damn good, in fact I can polish it and sell it as a new tyre...lol. May be 70% of the original is still left, perhaps 4-5 mm! Its the damn rubber which has turned into a bad material :-(.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Did you try 32 psi in all 4 tires?
      Yeah I did :-(.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Nothng to do with the tire. ABS can kick in at low speeds too
      I think good tyre will delay ABS coming into action, is not it.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Try to avoid braking at curves.
      At times on seeing excellent laid mountain roads, I just can not stop myself from some aggressive driving. It is addictive but when a vehicle appears out of no where at blind turns, then emergency barking has to be done and tyres sometime fail to meet my expectations!
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      When you say non-stop, I still believe you are taking break every 2 or 2 1/2 hours. That is good for your car & helps the tires to cool down a bit.
      When I drive solo, there is nothing else on mind except some spirited driving. Admit that I hate to stop but still stop for a minute (sometime with engine running) for bio brakes every 3 hours or so. As I drink lot of water while driving...lol.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Considering the terrain you are driving, I doubt so as XM1+ are known for it's long life & you feel it is not doing good enough after 26K Kms.
      Too bad.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Driving non-stop for that many hours itself helps the tire burst situation.
      May be but still believe that a correctly inflated healthy tyre, driven sensibly on a normal Indian road should not burst until unless it has a manufacturing defect.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Why can't you try 185/60 R14 spec?
      Warranty void song by dealers, I tell you Ford dealers here are one of the worst we can get anywhere. Secondly, stock profile seems ok to me as of now.

      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      Bridgestone MY-01/02s if available in your size. Or else try out the Acceleres under worse circumstances.
      Unfortunately MY-01/02 are not available in stock size, 175/65/14.

      However will you still suggest Apollo Acceleres over other supposedly "better" tyres. Is it really that good tyre over Michelin/Yokohama/Continental ? I mean can we trust on its quality, durability and safety (most important). If it is a 'Yes' from you and Evolution88 , I am going with Acceleres! In fact I wished to hear from you and Evolution88 .

      Thanks.

      Edit:
      I thought that Tyres and Alloy is right place for this thread, but it is move to Figo section .
      Last edited by yksharma; 18th Jun 2013 at 15:08.
      2012 Ford Figo 1.4 Titanium, 2006 Bajaj Pulsar 150
      ____________________________________________

      I was lonely driving here tonight so I hugged the road.

    7. #7

      Sedate...
       
      Awesome
       
      Evolution88's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2011
      Location
      Bangalore
      Posts
      3,081
      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      Warranty void song by dealers, I tell you Ford dealers here are one of the worst we can get anywhere. Secondly, stock profile seems ok to me as of now.
      Warranty Void song is everywhere.
      Until unless something bad happens to the related components they won't enforce it.

      In stock spec there are very less options. That is why I opted for an upgrade.
      I had driven Figo's with GT3's, MRF's & Acelere's. Was not happy with the braking of other two apart GT3.
      Probably the Figo's I had driven are pretty new which had MRF's & Acelere's.

      I suggest you to go for 185/60 R14 spec.
      It will help you definitely as you are driving in mountain roads & does lot of cornering & braking.
      2010 Ford Figo TDCi Titanium - CODE 6 Tuned - Our Colorado Queen :-)
      2012 Skoda Laura Ambiente 2.0 TDI DSG - Our Czech Princess :-)
      "Taking your seat is so easy. Leaving it, however, never is." :-) - Courtesy BMW 3 Series

    8. #8

      *
       
      Awesome
       
      yksharma's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2012
      Location
      Bilaspur HP-23 / Gurgaon HR-26
      Posts
      2,232
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      I suggest you to go for 185/60 R14 spec.
      It will help you definitely as you are driving in mountain roads & does lot of cornering & braking.
      Is it, hmm , suddenly I seem to like this idea when you said above lines.
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      Until unless something bad happens to the related components they won't enforce it.
      Hmm, it can happen. Seeing on the kind of roads I drive, it can very much happen. That is why I thought that I am better with stock size profile.

      By the way, factory warranty is 2 years and I have additional 2 years warranty. Any idea, what all components are covered and what is the cost if we need to replace the related parts at our cost. If it is not more than Rs. 25000/- , I can stop worrying about Ford warranty.
      Last edited by yksharma; 18th Jun 2013 at 15:35.
      2012 Ford Figo 1.4 Titanium, 2006 Bajaj Pulsar 150
      ____________________________________________

      I was lonely driving here tonight so I hugged the road.

    9. #9

      Sedate...
       
      Awesome
       
      Evolution88's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2011
      Location
      Bangalore
      Posts
      3,081
      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      Is it, hmm , suddenly I seem to like this idea when you said above lines.


      Quote Originally Posted by yksharma View Post
      y the way, factory warranty is 2 years and I have additional 2 years warranty. Any idea, what all components are covered and what is the cost if we need to replace the related parts at our cost. If it is not more than Rs. 25000/- , I can stop worrying about Ford warranty.
      My Car had 2 Years warranty & the 3rd Year extended warranty. Am almost exhausting the 3rd Year Warranty.
      Had received message from Metro Ford stating that the warranty is about to expire(in another 4 months) & it's due for renewal.
      Last two times when I was there, they said about this too. 4th Year warranty will cost me around 10K so I opted against it during that time.
      Tried to reach the representative now but couldn't.

      What all is covered & what not is covered is given in the User's Manual itself.
      Basically most of the parts which are prone to wear & tear won't be covered under warranty.

      There are chances that if you upsize the tire & after that the suspension failed, they will say it is cos of the upsize even if it is not.
      But given that many Figo owners had upsized the tires & clocked lot of Kms(read 50K+ Kms) & still the suspension or other parts hold good, tire upsize is a safe option.
      I have heard complaints regarding the steering rack failure in Figo after tire upgrades but I believe the upsize was totally wrong which resulted in that.
      Last edited by Evolution88; 18th Jun 2013 at 16:09.
      2010 Ford Figo TDCi Titanium - CODE 6 Tuned - Our Colorado Queen :-)
      2012 Skoda Laura Ambiente 2.0 TDI DSG - Our Czech Princess :-)
      "Taking your seat is so easy. Leaving it, however, never is." :-) - Courtesy BMW 3 Series

    10. #10

      *
       
      Awesome
       
      yksharma's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2012
      Location
      Bilaspur HP-23 / Gurgaon HR-26
      Posts
      2,232
      Quote Originally Posted by Evolution88 View Post
      But given that many Figo owners had upsized the tires & clocked lot of Kms(read 50K+ Kms) & still the suspension or other parts hold good, tire upsize is a safe option.
      So Bridgestone MY-02 with profile 185/60 R14 is short listed, may be I will drive some more and go for new ones

      But meanwhile I will keep watch on other brands as well with stock size 175/65/14 .
      2012 Ford Figo 1.4 Titanium, 2006 Bajaj Pulsar 150
      ____________________________________________

      I was lonely driving here tonight so I hugged the road.

    Page 1 of 12 12311 ... LastLast

    Thread Information

    Users Browsing this Thread

    There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

    Similar Threads

    1. Indian Tyre Manufacturer News Thread
      By P3T3R in forum Automotive News & General Discussions
      Replies: 13
      Last Post: 30th Mar 2017, 16:35
    2. Replies: 47
      Last Post: 27th Dec 2013, 18:02
    3. 175 / 65 / R14 Apollo Acelere -5 brand new tyres for sale - Chennai
      By gjbarani in forum Parts And Accessories
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 13th Oct 2011, 18:25
    4. 175 70 R14 or 185 65 R14 - tyres required urgently
      By gjbarani in forum Parts And Accessories
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 9th Oct 2011, 21:23
    5. Replies: 15
      Last Post: 22nd Apr 2011, 00:35

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •