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      Best sounding iPod

      An interesting article on the iPod & the DAC's used in it. I've always wondered what DAC's are being used on the iPod. While most of the information Apple keeps under wraps (as always), this article seems to dig it down.

      http://macintoshhowto.com/itunes/whi...o-quality.html

      And there's a dedicated Wiki group who are analyzing the iPod & its hardware.

      freemyipod.org

      Thought of sharing the same here.

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      Thats an informative post Lvramanan. Always wondered what DACs they use.

      btw, I have ordered a Fiio X3 with a wolfson WM8470 dac chip to replace my 2nd gen ipod touch.

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      Quote Originally Posted by xander View Post
      btw, I have ordered a Fiio X3 with a wolfson WM8470 dac chip to replace my 2nd gen ipod touch.
      I too have a 2nd iPod touch. How much does this cost ?

      EDIT: Looks like they've dedicated USB DAC & can be used as a Asynchronous DAC
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lvramanan View Post
      http://macintoshhowto.com/itunes/whi...o-quality.html
      looks like a typical wolf cry favouring the audio hub maker. My understanding is Apple favours Wolfson is where microphones are involved. They have a higher integration chip involving multiple mics, noise cancellation algorithms, voice quality improvement, audio codec and low power class D smart amp in one chip.

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      freemyipod.org
      shows all recent iPODs have cirrus logic chips.

      I think, Apple like both vendors equally and balances them from a risk perspective.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
      I think, Apple like both vendors equally and balances them from a risk perspective.
      Yes, also in the same article its mentioned that all upcoming iPod, iPad & iPhone starting from 5 will be having Wolfson DAC in this link

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lvramanan View Post
      also in the same article its mentioned that all upcoming iPod, iPad & iPhone starting from 5 will be having Wolfson DAC in this link
      Good luck to Wolfson. If you know the semiconductor industry, you know how such stories are written.

      IPhone 5 already has Cirrus Logic iPhone 5 Teardown - iFixit

      IPad Mini II also has Cirrus Logic iPad Mini Retina Display Teardown - iFixit



      Future is always bright. IPhone 10 may have India designed audio hub !!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lvramanan View Post
      I too have a 2nd iPod touch. How much does this cost ?

      EDIT: Looks like they've dedicated USB DAC & can be used as a Asynchronous DAC
      It's not available in India. I am getting it from UK for 140 pounds. A friend is carrying it. Its cheaper in US@ $200. And yeah.. It can be used as a USB DAC..
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      The best DAC in the world would not be of much useful if the preamp section is bad. That is why Red wine mod (called iMod) for iPod 4th, 5th and 5.5 gen was greatly respected. It leverages the built in wolfson DAC but bypasses the inferior amp section and gives much better line out.
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      Quote Originally Posted by xander View Post
      And yeah.. It can be used as a USB DAC..
      At this price point I believe it would be comparable to

      1) Cambridge Audio DacMagic XS available at $189.00 in Amazon
      2) HRT Microstreamer - available at at $189.95 in Amazon

      and Fiio in additionally acts as a Portable player apart from being a Async USB DAC which is great !

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      Quote Originally Posted by matbhuvi View Post
      The best DAC in the world would not be of much useful if the preamp section is bad. That is why Red wine mod (called iMod) for iPod 4th, 5th and 5.5 gen was greatly respected. It leverages the built in wolfson DAC but bypasses the inferior amp section and gives much better line out.
      +1....

      Source signal - Source reader - DAC - pre-amp - amp - speakers - ears

      In this flow chart every section is critical. Except for the ears, everything else is driven by power which too needs to be clean.

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