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      To be very Honest if you have a tight budget i wouldn't do the 4 way active. No matter how much you try your budget will cross 1.5 lacs easily. If you can do that then nothing like it. At this point of time i suggest you listen to some cars in Bangalore or in chennai and decide what is Sq for you as gkannan said it's a very relative term. My advice would be to start from a very good source unit like 80prs etc Hx-d2 would be way out of your Budget also regarding your speakers all brands have a different sound signature like Morel has a laidback sound signature which is difficult to mate with speakers of other brands so if you like that signature but it and forget it else you can start with a good 2 way system and upgrade it to 3 way if needed. Other options would include buying a Hu and mate it with a dsp if you need 4 way active setup. HxD2 is a nice sounding hu but the tuning options are limited if you are looking for extensive tune also the sub bass is not upto the mark when compared with other Hu the midrange on those are really sweet and probably the best. In the end it all depends on you whether you want to stop at one point of time or want to try n improve like itsvel06 has been trying.
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      Well, situation has changed a bit in the last few days. I was hoping to listen to few setups last friday/saturday but mclaren1885 was out of town. Promised for Monday/Tuesday but I have office. May be next weekend?
      Now, looks like I need to start from somewhere and build ahead slowly in coming month as I had to invest some of the funds elsewhere. Question is

      1. Where do I start so that I still improve on my current SQ till my next install, like, HU, fronts, amps, subs etc.
      2. I'd like to keep these as I build on later.
      3. Budget is 30-40k for now. (I hate these situations. I am more of a get-the-complete-package-at-once guy)
      (I want to start quick, can't lose these $$ to something else now

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      Also, I was looking into tyre/alloy upgrades.
      Can you gearheads suggest a good-looking, performant tyre/alloy upgrade like size, brands etc.
      so that I can begin some R&D in the mean time.

      Thanks for the replies guys. Its always pleasing to hear some advice from ICE gurus. Keep it coming, I am learning

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abhinandan Sahu View Post
      Where do I start so that I still improve on my current SQ till my next install, like, HU, fronts, amps, subs etc.
      start with HU.PERIOD.
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      Hello Abhinanda,
      Sure all of us do start of in a phase by phase manner to upgrade the kit, If you are on a crunch with the budget it would be best you remove the sub from your list at the moment and start your setup with the HU, Components and an Amp pretty much everything though but hey its worth the wait for the sub later on.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MotorHeader View Post
      start your setup with the HU, Components and an Amp pretty much everything though
      Will it be remotely possible to start with the speakers and the HU for about a month and add on the AMPs and SUB?
      I was like, ok, later may be I can add 1) a 4ch amp 2) a mono block 3) and the sub which can be a bigger & better one, if possible.

      Quote Originally Posted by piyush7243 View Post
      HxD2 is a nice sounding hu but the tuning options are limited
      HU, as many have already said Pio may not be the way ahead and I should try Alpine/Kenwood/Sony.
      Double DIN because I want to fit in a rev-cam monitor too. Also, BT hands free calls with mic, USB/HDD play, FLAC/Lossless audio support and I dont want to clutter dash with multiple devices in it if I can find a common way out. My 2 cents.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abhinandan Sahu View Post
      Will it be remotely possible to start with the speakers and the HU for about a month and add on the AMPs and SUB?
      Yes, you can start with a good HU and good speakers and later on add the amp and sub. Please plan and upgrade in a phased manner.

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      Sure you can keep upgrading when the timing with funds works right for you. Unless you want to get everything on EMI using a credit card
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      Quote Originally Posted by vineeth View Post
      start with HU.PERIOD.
      Quote Originally Posted by p.k View Post
      you can start with a good HU and good speakers and later on add the amp and sub.
      I would actually disagree with that.

      If one is doing things in a phased manner, I'd get the HU along with the amp! Putting in aftermarket speakers connected to a HLA will show you the discernable difference in SQ compared to the stock speaker as is. So now you have a A-B comparison.

      Later add a HU and an amp and you'll notice that difference even more. So you can analyze the difference an amp and HU makes as well. Final stage would be the subwoofer.

      Quote Originally Posted by Abhinandan Sahu View Post
      Will it be remotely possible to start with the speakers and the HU for about a month and add on the AMPs and SUB?
      We can do that! That way at every stage you will be able to notice the difference better.

      Quote Originally Posted by Abhinandan Sahu View Post
      HU, as many have already said Pio may not be the way ahead and I should try Alpine/Kenwood/Sony.
      The Pio double DINs enunciate the low end bass a bit more and muddle the mids and the higher frequencies! Basically they give you more bass than needed! And given the limited tuning options it would be hard to fix that.

      Similarly, every other manufacturer will give you something in lieu of something else. What you need to ask yourself is what are you willing to sacrifice to get what!

      I would stay away from Alpine/Kenwood/Sony HUs. Mostly expensive and will rob your wallet and nothing great to write home about. I'd pick from Pioneer/JVC! Maybe karanbhatia can shed more light on the JVC Double DINs.

      I have tried a lot of the double DINs. And honestly if you ask me I'd not waste my money on any of them! I'd get a Pioneer P80RS/JVC KD-R90BT and stress more on SQ than other features a Double DIN offers.

      PS- I moved from the Pioneer top of the line Double DIN to the P99RS within a week, so I speak from experience
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      I would actually disagree with that.

      If one is doing things in a phased manner, I'd get the HU along with the amp! Putting in aftermarket speakers connected to a HLA will show you the discernable difference in SQ compared to the stock speaker as is
      You would end up searching and buying a HU BADLY ! On a serious note, I did not want to change the HU just to maintain the looks of factory fit. I spent the money on speakers and amp etc. now I know what I miss, it is HU. now
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      I would stay away from Alpine/Kenwood/Sony HUs. Mostly expensive and will rob your wallet and nothing great to write home about. I'd pick from Pioneer/JVC! Maybe karanbhatia can shed more light on the JVC Double DINs.

      In terms of SQ alone, Alpine 2-din like 520 or 502 or X8 or W535HD are really really good and have TA as well (can be added by H100 on some) specially through CD but the downside being the price and lack of lossless playback. Though I've been able to play wav files through the iPod on them but the iPod DAC is not bypassed. It still sounds good though primarily because of lossless files and Alpine hardware. Emphasis on mids and highs with a sophisticated looking UI and excellent build quality. But again ... pricey for sure.

      New gen Sony with lossless I have not heard so no comments. Old ones were bad sounding. Harsh at high volumes.

      Kenwood = JVC in sound but lesser quality of UI

      JVC has the most neutral sound of all these. A good UI but lacks when compared to the speed of Pioneer and has a mono sub out which frankly does not make much difference.

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      The above is the analog signal of my old JVC 2-din that I am currently using with the DSP

      The signal was taken from the Front RCA with a CD Quality Pink noise track used. Volume kept at 45 out of 50 and was measured in True RTA after converting to digital form using a Analog to Digital adapter that connects via USB

      The output is really flat except for some bumps around and below 200Hz. A little bump in the bass and mid bass region is there in almost all HU but I guess the conversion process to digital also added some artifacts to it.


      I'd love to test more HU primarily the Pioneer 2-din and 80PRS and some JVC 1-Din but hard to find willing candidates here


      New gen Pioneer with WAV file like Rahul said do emphasize bass and even the highs a bit more but owning to lossless playback they manage to sound good still and by far have the easiest to use UI and a quick interface.


      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      PS- I moved from the Pioneer top of the line Double DIN to the P99RS within a week, so I speak from experience
      Uncle you moved to a purebred audiophile HU costing twice that of the 8490 with less than half the features but more than 1000 times the sound and tuning options

      Compare fairly
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