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      VERNA CRDI - Timing Chain Replacement

      My car is passed 96000 KMS.

      Lately it has stopped the insane rate at which it was consuming kms given the fact that now my parents are using the car in TVM .

      Yesterday the Service advisor recommended that the Timing chain be replaced , this is fine given the number of kms the car has done but he was quoting a price of 6k for this replacement !

      For all i know when the timing chain has to be replaced the following things have to be changed at the least the below item and cost a cool 20K plus atleast

      1. Timing Chain
      2. Tensioners
      3. Pre Tensioners ????

      Fellow dieselheads who have done this change already ...please pour in your inputs .....

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      In my Accent CRDi, I remember it was about 15k. Parts included timing belt, tensioner and idler bearing if I remember correctly. But it is possible that prices may have come down. Ask the service centre which parts exactly is he replacing. Also I hope he knows your car is a CRDi, because the petrol is cheaper for this sort of service.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fuelrungod View Post
      In my Accent CRDi, I remember it was about 15k. Parts included timing belt, tensioner and idler bearing if I remember correctly. But it is possible that prices may have come down. Ask the service centre which parts exactly is he replacing. Also I hope he knows your car is a CRDi, because the petrol is cheaper for this sort of service.

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      Well i know for a fact that such repairs on the diesels cost more and the parts might be different if you are using a belt , which other CRDI car uses a timing chain ?

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      The Scorpio uses a timing chain. I didn't know that the Verna was using a chain and not a belt.

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      VERNA CRDI uses a timing chain and not a belt, i have see this first hand at a hyundai A.S.S in BLR. Affirmative !

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      Verna and Getz use timing chain, so do the MJDs IIRC. And from what I remember replacing it should make you poorer by ~25-30k.
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      But the timing chain is used so that it lowers maintenance costs. Does your manual say it should be replaced at this mileage?

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      Quote Originally Posted by fuelrungod View Post
      But the timing chain is used so that it lowers maintenance costs. Does your manual say it should be replaced at this mileage?
      Actually its the timing chain tensioner that usually fails first. With time, the channels that supply oil for lubrication get blocked (more so in our dusty Indian conditions). And when there is improper lubrication it will lead to excessive wear on the timing chain as well.

      Or in some cases it could just be a faulty tensioner causing the excessive noise but the service guys recommend you to replace the entire unit. I have to check my service manual to see what Maruti recommends for the Swift.

      More than lower maintainance costs, IMO the reason to use timing chains is to prevent snapping (in case of belts) at high RPMs which could be detrimental.
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      the service book says check and replace ! Yes 25 -30K is the estimate that i was waiting to hear but the Sa throws a 6K at me i was surprised , may be i should check as to what he had in mind !

      Any thing else other than this , do you think that it might be worth while to have a look at the engine mountings - these guys are also costly at a total of 10k for the replacement of all the mountings !

      Between the first estimate he gave my dad was 50 k for the 1 lakh kms service ! i dont know what he had in mind - to meet his quarterly revenue target from just one car ? Thats why i gave him a call in the first place !
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      @mclaren: yes definately to avoid the belt snapping. Typically the chains have longer lives than belts. Hellstar, if the manual says it needs to be changed then go ahead by all means. If it's cheap, then good on Hyundai.

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