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      Quote Originally Posted by keerthi View Post
      Is there a way to get the OE aux-in and USB ports to work with Kenwood 9018 (or any aftermarket) unit?
      Yup. I think mclaren1885 had gotten something for this exact purpose including the OE camera integration also.
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      Congrats on new car. HU fitment is also looking decent, probably 7inch would be perfect. Not sure why Kenwood decided with 6.75 inch only. Most cars here are compatible with 6.2 or 7inch.

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      Apologies for the extended delay in updating the thread :/

      Let's pick up from where we left off.

      The next piece of equipment that was added to the setup list was the 4 Channel Amplifier. It was graciously offered by a close friend and was equally hurriedly picked up from him

      I wanted to get a smallish size Class AB amplifier for the front stage that would in future be used for tweeter and mid range should I choose to go with a 3-way active setup.

      The Tru Technology T4 was just the perfect fit for the job:

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      Input and Filter section

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      Terminals will comfortably accept 4ga power and ground wire and 12ga wires for speakers.



      It's built like a small tank and a highly deceptive and impressive power output which I eventually found out.

      The T4 needs an external 60A fuse for proper install. I have been using it since March this year and it has never failed to impress me with it's sound quality and endurance in this summer. The amplifier does get hot and even hotter due to the direct sunlight over it at times but has yet to show any signs of faltering under that load.

      The power levels do seem less on paper but real world performance is a whole different ball game for the T4

      More updates later on.
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      The Kenwood 9018S and Tru Technology T4 were the only new entrants to my equipment collection.

      All the equipment next is being reused from Ertiga setup save for maybe the Power wiring.

      Mono:

      Kenwood XR-1S

      This little mono really surprised me when I first hooked it up in Ertiga. It handled the Audifrog GB12 so well and the SQ was no less than from Class D amps higher up the price range

      The compact size and overall reliability made a strong case for it to be used in this setup.

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      Speakers and Subwoofer :

      My much loved Audiofrog GB set is being used here as well. I do want to get new speakers at some time. Most likely a 3-way Setup but till then this super high quality 2-way set consisting of the GB 15 and the GB60 plus the matching GB12D4 subwoofer comes back to do their duty.

      This set is definitely the longest owned and used set by me. 3 Years and counting. They sure don't look as good as they first did but the performance is no way diminished in any way.

      The change this time with the install is fiberglass pods for tweeters and sealed enclosure for the subwoofer

      I also managed to get the GB615C passive network through a friend from Crutchfield. These are massive to say the least but extremely well made with the best tweeter adjustment option I have seen till date on a Passive network.

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      Wiring:

      An Audison 2ga wiring kit was used in this setup. I got a bunch of these kits through a friend quite a while back and decided to use one here as it would be suitable for future high power setups as well as reasonable size for proper routing and install.

      To match it, an Audison SFD-41C combo distribution block was used. One of the best made units and great for single unit use. One downside you might face depending on your install is if the power and ground cable are far from each other, in that case you might be better off using separate blocks.


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      The audison wiring comes sort of pre-lubricated with some sort of oil or jelly like substance that makes it easier to snake through firewall or grommets etc in the engine bay. The wiring was eventually covered with Exterior Tesa Tape and fuse holder mounted securely. I will post pictures of that later.


      For speaker wire, the Rockford Fosgate 16ga speaker wire was reused from Ertiga. Unfortunately it falls a tad bit short for the current setup one one of the cables so eventually I will add a barrier strip / terminal block to extend and organize the cables properly.

      RCA is again the Rockford Fosgate 5m cables from Ertiga. I eventually found all of my higher end cables (5m AIV Arctic) that will go in the install at a later stage. Till then these RF cables serve their purpose perfectly and being extremely flexible, they are super easy to install.

      Only the Front and Subwoofer output of the HU have been used.

      All of the signal wiring has been routed away from the power cable. The speaker wire run from their respective sides. Speaker wire for mid bass were routed in the door through the molex as are the cables in the pillars for the tweeters.
      It's the best way to dump money and spend an inordinate amount of time...because all debts are paid when the hairs on the back of your neck stand straight up and goosebumps cover your arms, because the sound is SO good. - Scott Buwalda

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      For the install, I went to the team over at Audio SymPro .. Abhishek and Rishabh.

      My biggest requirement was that I could safely and comfortably leave the car with the installer who would handle the equipment like their own and do the install according to my requirements while at the same time using their experience and expertise to provide better solutions than what I would have suggested.

      To that, Abhishek and Rishabh delivered everything beyond my expectation. The install was completed on time, everything installed properly, equipment handled better than what I would have and use of materials that I could never have managed by myself or any other installer that I have access to.

      For the doors, the default choice of damping was dampmat. Over the years I have come to realize that depending on the car, you do not need to do a full coverage of the door and add unnecessary weight. Abhishek agreed to this and for the doors we did the outer layer, and just the open area of the layer where the speaker is mounted.

      Creta is a well made car with low NVH so any further damping, on doors and floor etc was not done.

      For the door pads, again from previous experience, it is better to have them lock in properly than not do that under the weight of excess damping.

      With the mid bass location being up in middle almost, the cabin gain would be low and my tendency to not run the mid bass too low meant I did not need the door pads to be damped or weighted. STP Bi-Plast 10 was used for the door pads. Nothing else.

      One major factor that sealed the deal for me to get Abhishek and Rishabh to do the install was one of their pics on FB where HDPE spacers were used for a Creta install.

      I requested the same and it was done again with perfection. I believe the spacers were cut on water jet and mounted to stock screw location with no additional holes drilled.

      Mid bass mounted perfectly with foam rings around them to couple them to the door pads and have the maximum acoustic energy transferred to the cabin.

      I had the mid bass playing alone and to their maximum Frequency range till the tweeter pods were done and the imaging from those two speakers alone was right on the dash and widespread. Thanks in majority to the location. The bass was of course less than what I've had them put out in Ertiga due to the lower location but the balance of bass and mid range they put out is excellent to say the least.

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      The Audiofrog GB60 is one the BEST mid bass / range I have heard and used till date and with the meticulous install done on the doors, they perform to the maximum.
      It's the best way to dump money and spend an inordinate amount of time...because all debts are paid when the hairs on the back of your neck stand straight up and goosebumps cover your arms, because the sound is SO good. - Scott Buwalda

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