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      toyota sera fan -- buying guide

      hi friends, i have been a sera fan from past so many years and wanted to own one since my childhood and now i hope the time has come, my search for a sera began four years back and now i have come across two sera , both are red, please help me to choose which will be best for me. though many would suggest me to stay away from this car, but i cant stay away from this car..... discription below..........

      first sera........ its is in punjab and 1991 automatic with beige interior and looks ok from the photo, what the owner say is that the engine is not in working condition and needs to be overhauled or replaced, all the doors and a/c is working fine as per him. i spoke to the transporter and they are charging 30k to deliver it here in bangalore.

      second sera ..... 1991 model manual, its is in bangalore and i have test driven it two days back, the egine is in ok condition but the there is a problem in the fuel system and now he is running it in LPG, the body and beadings has lot of tinkering work, driver side door and the back door doest stay up when opened, front wind sheild has a crack on it, the grey interior is in bad shape ( not a problem as i will do complete interior work)

      both the owners have quoted me around the same price, now i am confused which one to buy, though i can afford to buy both now ...but my wife will kick me out of the house if i buy both of this condition. ,

      if i buy the first one i plan to swap the engine to toyota N1 turbo or skoda 1.9 tdi ,an expert said 1.9tdi will fit into it, and i do not have to do any major body and interior work.

      if i buy the second one i plan to do complete body work with body kits, ffe, cold air intake and few other modification, paint colour of my choice etc.,

      please suggest me which is best and please help me in sourcing parts if you friend know any place. ... i will be really very greatful to you all as i am in process on fulfilling my long dream.

      last but not the least please suggest me a very good mechanic here in bangalore where i can get this done. because i am not happy with my previous mechanic where i had done my gypsy, and the other mechanic who swapped me diesel engine for my esteem, he doest have the setup for tinkering and painting, i am looking for a good garage all under one roof so that i do not have to run around every time.
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      latheef_coorg, an engine is easier to rebuild / swap than the body. looking at the laundry list of problems in the Bangalore Sera, I would say go for the Punjab car. no matter what you do, you cannot restore a car body to the exact condition it was in when it rolled out of the factory. you might as well spend that time and effort after the engine and you will be much better rewarded for it. but please, make it an MT.

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      latheef_coorg: +1 to that. Minor interior work and engine work is a better option than a major interior job. The car in B'lore has other list of problems as well. One more thing though, as you haven't seen the car available in Punjab in real, ask someone you know to go and have a look at it, if possible. Photos can be deceptive at times .
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      Quote Originally Posted by latheef_coorg View Post
      driver side door and the back door doest stay up when opened
      dont worry a lot about this problem. this is common problem and changing a shocks can fix this problem. (most of the times)

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      Quote Originally Posted by latheef_coorg View Post
      i am looking for a good garage all under one roof so that i do not have to run around every time.
      This might sound stupid but the best garage is your backyard. If you want example, go to my vehicles and check out 2002 Mitsubishi Eclipse. I had no idea where to start on that car. had no idea how to do mechanic work. It took me well over a year but I can tell peoples that I done everything by my self.

      Take friend's help. Use internet. After you are done. you will enjoy more then you would if someone else done all the work for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
      latheef_coorg , an engine is easier to rebuild / swap than the body. looking at the laundry list of problems in the Bangalore Sera, I would say go for the Punjab car. no matter what you do, you cannot restore a car body to the exact condition it was in when it rolled out of the factory. you might as well spend that time and effort after the engine and you will be much better rewarded for it. but please, make it an MT.
      thanks,, even i was thinking of the same, i like the automatic for the sera, can any one please quide me how can i swap engine with the original automatic gearbox, what all the changes has to be done,

      Quote Originally Posted by Linea-Lover View Post
      latheef_coorg : +1 to that. Minor interior work and engine work is a better option than a major interior job. The car in B'lore has other list of problems as well. One more thing though, as you haven't seen the car available in Punjab in real, ask someone you know to go and have a look at it, if possible. Photos can be deceptive at times .
      thanks yaar, even i was thinking of the same, can any one from chandigarh here in the forum help me to inspect the car, i ll be really greatful.

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      dont worry a lot about this problem. this is common problem and changing a shocks can fix this problem. (most of the times)
      but those are not available easily. but i will some how source them.

      Quote Originally Posted by BikerBoi View Post
      This might sound stupid but the best garage is your backyard. If you want example, go to my vehicles and check out 2002 Mitsubishi Eclipse. I had no idea where to start on that car. had no idea how to do mechanic work. It took me well over a year but I can tell peoples that I done everything by my self.

      Take friend's help. Use internet. After you are done. you will enjoy more then you would if someone else done all the work for you.
      small mechanical work here and there i can manage, but what about tinkering and painting, i need good garage not only for this car but my other cars too, if i start working on all the cars myself n i will also have to learn to eat paper and leaves.
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      IMHO, I would give both the cars a skip. Engine or body work, involves spending a lot of money and time to set things right. And 99% of the cases it will never turn up right and will involve spending more money and time on the car.

      Also, how is the spares availability for the Sera? Where are you going to get critical components like engine parts/suspension etc from if the ones on the car are busted? Its easier to buy a car, but in the long run, if you have to import the parts its going to turn out to be a real PITA.

      Not trying to discourage you, but do think practically before you set foot on this project.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mclaren1885 View Post
      IMHO, I would give both the cars a skip. Engine or body work, involves spending a lot of money and time to set things right. And 99% of the cases it will never turn up right and will involve spending more money and time on the car.

      Also, how is the spares availability for the Sera? Where are you going to get critical components like engine parts/suspension etc from if the ones on the car are busted? Its easier to buy a car, but in the long run, if you have to import the parts its going to turn out to be a real PITA.

      Not trying to discourage you, but do think practically before you set foot on this project.
      yes you are right, i know it is very very very difficult to source the parts for these cars, but most of the parts are available in dubai where i have my branch office, more over i will not be using it on daily basis, just mad behind this car. i know it will be very very difficult to get this car in shape and to maintain it but kya karna i am in love and this one i am buying for my car collecting hobby.
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      Quote Originally Posted by latheef_coorg View Post
      yes you are right, i know it is very very very difficult to source the parts for these cars, but most of the parts are available in dubai where i have my branch office, more over i will not be using it on daily basis, just mad behind this car. i know it will be very very difficult to get this car in shape and to maintain it but kya karna i am in love and this one i am buying for my car collecting hobby.
      if that is the case, why dont you buy *both* the cars and use one car as a part donor for the other? you can take the engine off the BLR car and swap it into the PB car. then see exactly what is wrong with that engine. repair it if you can otherwise dismantle it and keep the spare parts handy. similarly with suspension components, etc.

      just dont tell your wife that youve bought both

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      Quote Originally Posted by latheef_coorg View Post
      small mechanical work here and there i can manage, but what about tinkering and painting, i need good garage not only for this car but my other cars too, if i start working on all the cars myself n i will also have to learn to eat paper and leaves.
      Well in that case, I dont have anything to say. the reason it took me over a year to build my car is, I dont have lot of spare time either. I just get one day a week to spend. and yes I agree that you need a good garage for other cars. I was just talking about the one that you want to build just to drive once a while.

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